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  • Saturday, April 07, 2007
    10:33 PM

    OK been thinking about some stuff on a general and daily perspective.Sorry christians! take no offense.( i happen to be i church before so i would like to comment on some things that dont seem fit to me)

    the following is an excerpt from my now abandoned . stagnated and dead blog www.lifesavinglove.blogspot.com .



    Firstly i understand cell leaders and their respective helpers care for each
    member's spiritual coverage.However one must learn to be considerate and
    understanding.the story went when one day after a family outing i was a
    dead
    beat cos we were doing this "expedition" at bukit timah hill...so i came
    back
    dirty ,tired and sweaty and needed to sleep.However there was a
    cell group
    goin on but i
    wanted to rest.Each time my phone rang i
    got nervous.Cos i knew
    wats gonna
    happen.Someone would call and tell me
    loads of stuff on why i
    should go to cell
    groups.Yes its for my benefit
    but please be understanding
    when u genuinely are.U
    can talk to a person
    and say "i comprehend,i
    understand", when in the first
    place u dont.Its
    like asking a mother whose
    child was a victim of cholera who
    has scores
    of hope to be cured to
    sympathise with a mother whose child died in a
    car accident.Ok why am i
    talking about death???? lets put it another
    way.Get a
    rock guitarist to talk
    to a banking and finance officer.Half
    the time both
    parties have no idea
    wats each other talking about.

    Anyway,Its true that
    when one of the
    members called and told me
    to come to cell group either way,i
    hesitated and
    couldnt find a stand to
    say yes or no.so most of the time i kept
    silent.It
    must have irritated
    the person so the phone was passed to the cell
    leader.And then i got loads
    of stuff that told me off saying i pay lip
    service
    to God only.And i
    guessed its my indecisiveness that made my cell
    leader say
    such
    shockingly rough words.Must have irritated him so i guess it
    my fault. But
    anyway humans talk in any manner when they are mad.So i
    forgave both of
    them
    after i put down the phone.After all i irritated
    them.And one cant
    expect
    everyone to be perfect.

    Secondly i surveyed
    most of my
    members about
    cell group relations.Most of them told me they
    would
    rather prefer to have
    another cell member calling them up to just have
    a
    genuinely heart to heart chat
    than to mention church and bible stuff.The
    bible says let everything have
    balance.Yes we have the mind of christ
    but we
    dont have to force the bible on
    each other all the time.Unless
    someone asks
    for a revelation.If need be,cut ur
    revelation short.Dont
    preach a long
    winded sermon that serves to confuse,and
    occasionally
    ,irritate people.Come
    straight to the main point.Further more a
    simple
    encouraging word or phrase
    is strong enough to build someone up. U cant
    recite word for word from a 300
    page novel,let alone a 50 page nove can
    you?In a
    relationship,the most
    impactable phrase is "i love you".Such a
    simple phrase
    causes guys to smile
    day in day out..girls to be smiling
    dreamily ..hahah.So its
    like feeding on
    a bite sized nuggte that grow in
    u like a seed being sown.U dont
    have to sow
    so many seeds in a person's
    soul and then have weeds growing all
    over.Talk
    about overcrowding
    conditions.AHhaa science project in primary school.

    I
    dont mean to
    to offend anyone but please act in love.coming to church
    and
    stuff is a
    willing act,not something that people have to push u or to be
    monitored.That
    can make u feel controlled and "cultish",like how cults use
    militaristic and
    nasty means to make sure u dont stray away.So please.If a
    member doesnt
    come..he or she loses out for that day..but it doesnt mean he
    or
    she is
    straying away!!people want to be treated nicely.pressuring
    them,even if
    they are a believer or not..is obviously not acting in love.And
    most of
    my
    fellow members agree to this!!.

    In a GENERAL perspective,WE all dislike irritating salespeople we meet on the streets or telemarketers who call us up with the intention of pulling us to buy their product and services.And there is absolutely no sincerity or frienship involved.I get calls from my cell members for one thing only."hey we got (event) service this week.Would you like to come?" or "you coming for cell group?" Such statements contian absolutely no friendship.Just an ensuring statement that serves to maintain your prescence at church.Between friends we call one another up to talk about everything under the sun.And between colleagues they do spend 80% of their time talking about non work-related topics.That can help decrease work stress and promote harmony. Try talking to a devout christian.They cant help but spend 80% of their time talking about church matters and GOD and all that stuff.When u try to talk 20% of non church matters,they inevitably center back onto church matters.And getting you to convert and belief.Its a one sided thing. No offense to any followers of any religion,but the main thing is clear :DONT BE A NUISANCE TO OTHER PEOPLE.DONT CALL UR FRENS JSUT FOR THE INTENTION OF ASKING THEM TO GO TO CHURCH.USE THE 80/20 RULE.USE 80% OF YOUR TIME TO TALK ABOUT MUNDANE MATTERS.

    personally as a churched person the last time,i spend 80% of my time talking about non church matters to almost about anyone,including cell members.That way they wont feel the pressure or stress all the time,unless they like talking about church matters. (like talking about work on relaxing weekends from work can still bring about that same amount of "nerve wrecking" feeling.it will make no difference from being at the work place.All work and no play makes jack a dull boy.NO LIFE!!!)

    Secondly i would like to talk about persecution of christians.I used to think i was being persecuted by my parents for their objection to me going to church.Most new converts would hav gone throug this,something they call "trials and tribulations" OR simply "God given teststo strengthen one's faith". MAny new converts who are teens have tried to ignore parental objections successfully and later apllauded by the cell group for being able to withstand such a harsh trial.In fact,genuine persecution is when your faith is being mugged at for no apparent reason.Like if u are a jew,and hitler has to kill you just for that reason alone,and u cant betray your own race just to keep your own life.

    In a general perspective,parental objection is simply the fact that your parents are worried about you going to church and receiving the wrong teachings. Or you go to church all the time but you never change much.so its pointless.Finally its due to your parents feeling that you spent too much time at church and is too obsessed with church stuff that it is unhealthy.Juts explain it to them and clear all misunderstandings.Instead of ignoring it.If they still do not listen,it may be due to the fact that you have been raised a member of another religion and all of a sudden your conversion to a new God ,that seems to betray your current faith.Like a raised buddhist but turned christian later on .And your family memebers ,being advent believers in buddhsim strongly object you to switch to another God.

    Lasty,your thoughts can be strong in the bible,but you can still speak in laymen terms to those who do not believe.But your thoughts cannot be to christian.Its very one sided and you will see things in a limited way.Do adopt a wider range of thinking.For example,christians are likely to get more paranoid and start to hold "prayer meetings" to counter a potential faith wrecking cult message being delivered new age speakers who comes to our local ground and holds conventions to promote their ideology.

    IF they are so confident that christianity will not be asundered,why the sudden nervousness? Say u built a strong building like the raffles hotel.U wont send the construction workers to keep putting cement and stronger foundations to the walls of the building whenever the wind blows or the rain stops.It will not collapse! you already have put a strong foundation inside.Just believe and trust that it is strong!!You do not have to contact secret spy agents to spy on your spouse or lover 24/7 for fear that day hang out with members of the opposite sex.Because you believe that your spouse or lover is commited to you!!!And u are confident of the fact.

    enough ramblings.Enjoy the edited vid of joe satriani's 'always with you,never with me' guitar ballad.It sounds way off! haha..its done on purpose.




    ...still seeking for death?!